[Ubuntu-PH] Downgrading from Meerkat to Lynx

Discussion:

[C]hicken [G] od

2010-10-17 08:29:26 UTC

I wiped my whole drive and reinstalled Lynx since Meerkat could not load a
module properly. If I ever need to upgrade back to Meerkat but wish to go
back to Lynx, is there a way to go back without reinstalling the whole thing
again?

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JC John Sese Cuneta

2010-10-17 09:18:14 UTC

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I think it is not possible to downgrade as much as we can not downgrade from
Windows 7 to Windows Vista. OSes are one path only? upgrade. Newer
versions changes a lot of things (and deletes a lot too) which makes the
downgrade path very messy so no one is creating a downgrade option. (That's
how I understand the logic behind it.)

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, [C]hicken [G] od <

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
I wiped my whole drive and reinstalled Lynx since Meerkat could not load a
module properly. If I ever need to upgrade back to Meerkat but wish to go
back to Lynx, is there a way to go back without reinstalling the whole thing
again?
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Zak B. Elep

2010-10-17 12:21:25 UTC

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It is actually possible, Google for "apt pinning".

Of course, dragons lay in wait. That's why most just tend to restart from
scratch.
On Oct 17, 2010 5:24 PM, "JC John Sese Cuneta" <

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
I think it is not possible to downgrade as much as we can not downgrade from
Windows 7 to Windows Vista. OSes are one path only? upgrade. Newer
versions changes a lot of things (and deletes a lot too) which makes the
downgrade path very messy so no one is creating a downgrade option.

(That's

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
how I understand the logic behind it.)
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[C]hicken [G] od

2010-10-17 14:01:36 UTC

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Post by Zak B. Elep
It is actually possible, Google for "apt pinning".
Of course, dragons lay in wait. That's why most just tend to restart from
scratch.
On Oct 17, 2010 5:24 PM, "JC John Sese Cuneta" <

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
I think it is not possible to downgrade as much as we can not downgrade

from

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
Windows 7 to Windows Vista. OSes are one path only? upgrade. Newer
versions changes a lot of things (and deletes a lot too) which makes the
downgrade path very messy so no one is creating a downgrade option.

(That's

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
how I understand the logic behind it.)

Excellent! I will try this as soon as I am done customizing Lynx.

[C]hicken [G] od

2010-10-17 09:28:53 UTC

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That's too bad. I guess the other way is not as intrusive but at least Lynx
is still supported till 2013. If I understand correctly does this only do
security updates? I was wondering if I need to update the kernel, does Lynx
support kernel updates via Synaptic even if Meerkat is now the newer
version?

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM, JC John Sese Cuneta <

Post by JC John Sese Cuneta
I think it is not possible to downgrade as much as we can not downgrade
from Windows 7 to Windows Vista. OSes are one path only? upgrade. Newer
versions changes a lot of things (and deletes a lot too) which makes the
downgrade path very messy so no one is creating a downgrade option. (That's
how I understand the logic behind it.)
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, [C]hicken [G] od <

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Eduardo Bergavera

2010-10-17 09:08:41 UTC

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Hi,

I have never tried downgrading Ubuntu without touching the system in whole
or in part. Anyway, for the rest of us who decides to upgrade to 10.10 MM
let me share with you this article Is Ubuntu 10.10 Worth the
Upgrade?<http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7883?hq_e=el&hq_m=1093618&hq_l=5&hq_v=6c70d5caac>
hope you will find this information useful.
Regards,

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[C]hicken [G] od

2010-10-17 15:05:21 UTC

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I read about this but since I just started Linux (again) I opted to
experiment while I still have the time. Perhaps tact and being cautious is
what I need to think of when upgrading.

Post by Eduardo Bergavera
Hi,
I have never tried downgrading Ubuntu without touching the system in whole
or in part. Anyway, for the rest of us who decides to upgrade to 10.10 MM
let me share with you this article Is Ubuntu 10.10 Worth the Upgrade?<http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7883?hq_e=el&hq_m=1093618&hq_l=5&hq_v=6c70d5caac>
hope you will find this information useful.
Regards,
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, [C]hicken [G] od <

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
I wiped my whole drive and reinstalled Lynx since Meerkat could not load

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
module properly. If I ever need to upgrade back to Meerkat but wish to go
back to Lynx, is there a way to go back without reinstalling the whole

thing

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
again?
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JC John Sese Cuneta

2010-10-17 22:05:06 UTC

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Yep, very true.

For most organizations and users, sticking to an LTS release is much
better in the long-run (and should be less of a headache too). LTS
users can upgrade straight to the next LTS release anyway (or do a fresh
install).

The rest, ie the geeks, they can join the 6-month cycle. For the devs,
they're always at alpha stage :p

Post by Eduardo Bergavera
Hi,
I have never tried downgrading Ubuntu without touching the system in
whole or in part. Anyway, for the rest of us who decides to upgrade to
10.10 MM let me share with you this article?Is Ubuntu 10.10 Worth the
Upgrade?
<http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7883?hq_e=el&hq_m=1093618&hq_l=5&hq_v=6c70d5caac>?hope
you will find this information useful.
Regards,
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 4:29 PM, [C]hicken [G] od

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
I wiped my whole drive and reinstalled Lynx since Meerkat could not

load a

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
module properly. If I ever need to upgrade back to Meerkat but wish

to go

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
back to Lynx, is there a way to go back without reinstalling the

whole thing

Post by [C]hicken [G] od
again?
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Davao del Norte State College
Panabo City, Philippines 8105
Tel. #: (084) 628-4301
Email: edbergavera at gmail.com <mailto:edbergavera at gmail.com>
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Allan E. Registos

2010-10-18 06:47:15 UTC

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According to this site: http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
Apt pinning allows you to access the latest updates without compromising the stability of your system. When it is enabled, you can have lynx installed but can access Meerkat's latest updates but this will only apply to applications(non critical updates) only. So if iamthechickengod at gmail.com 's module is a driver module, this may serve him best.

However, ubuntu recommends backports rather than apt-pinning:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports

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It is actually possible, Google for "apt pinning".

Of course, dragons lay in wait. That's why most just tend to restart from scratch.

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