[Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu ditches X for Wayland..

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Allan E. Registos

2010-11-06 08:12:16 UTC

Another exciting news from Ubuntu.
http://www.osnews.com/story/23998/Finally_Ubuntu_Ditches_X_Switches_to_Wayland

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Franz Allan Valencia See

2010-11-06 09:27:16 UTC

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Very interesting indeed :-)

Anybody knows if there are some sneak peek videos or pics showing the
'improved' user experience? :-)

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On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Allan E. Registos <

Post by Allan E. Registos
Another exciting news from Ubuntu.
http://www.osnews.com/story/23998/Finally_Ubuntu_Ditches_X_Switches_to_Wayland
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Allan E. Registos

2010-11-06 09:34:19 UTC

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Mark Shuttleworth:

"Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551

Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or something, we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the wayland based desktop.

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Very interesting indeed :-)

Anybody knows if there are some sneak peek videos or pics showing the 'improved' user experience? :-)

Cheers,
--
Franz Allan Valencia See | Java Software Engineer
franz.see at gmail.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/franzsee
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/franz_see

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Allan E. Registos <allan.registos at smpc.steniel.com.ph> wrote:
Another exciting news from Ubuntu.http://www.osnews.com/story/23998/Finally_Ubuntu_Ditches_X_Switches_to_Wayland

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[C]hicken [G] od

2010-11-06 09:50:13 UTC

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On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Allan E. Registos <

Post by Allan E. Registos
"Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six
months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will
be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or something,
we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the wayland based
desktop.

I would be interested to know if anyone has had real face time with Wayland.
Just when I was starting to get comfortable with X and Gnome....*sigh*

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hard wyrd

2010-11-06 16:25:55 UTC

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definitely exciting :)

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Allan E. Registos

2010-11-07 23:22:55 UTC

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Unless if you are a developer something like you develop utilities/applications that relies heavily on X-dev, I can't see any reason why you aren't comfortable with another window server alternative, since it is transparent to the user, also Wayland was develop with backward compatibility in mind, so the transition is smooth. The difference is that we can expect GNOME and KDE to be faster to render windows than what we have today.

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On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Allan E. Registos < allan.registos at smpc.steniel.com.ph > wrote:

Mark Shuttleworth:

" Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551

Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or something, we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the wayland based desktop.

I would be interested to know if anyone has had real face time with Wayland. Just when I was starting to get comfortable with X and Gnome....*sigh*
--
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-=>Hi Tek, Lo Life<=-
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Franz Allan Valencia See

2010-11-07 23:26:18 UTC

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Curious, how about for xfce or lxde users?

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On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Allan E. Registos <

Post by Allan E. Registos
Unless if you are a developer something like you develop
utilities/applications that relies heavily on X-dev, I can't see any reason
why you aren't comfortable with another window server alternative, since it
is transparent to the user, also Wayland was develop with backward
compatibility in mind, so the transition is smooth. The difference is that
we can expect GNOME and KDE to be faster to render windows than what we have
today.
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*From: *"[C]hicken [G] od" <iamthechickengod at gmail.com>
*To: *"Mailing List para sa Ubuntu Pilipinas (Philippines)" <
ubuntu-ph at lists.ubuntu.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:50:13 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu ditches X for Wayland..
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Allan E. Registos <

Post by Allan E. Registos
"Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six
months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will
be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or
something, we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the
wayland based desktop.

I would be interested to know if anyone has had real face time with
Wayland. Just when I was starting to get comfortable with X and
Gnome....*sigh*
--
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hard wyrd

2010-11-08 00:20:54 UTC

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I agree.

Most users will only be using the upper graphical layer anyway (eg. mouse
clicking) so I don't see any huge hindrance for the common user regarding
the Wayland switch.

I expect the graphics layer to be much faster than it currently is,
considering that compositor "dialogue" will be much more direct than what's
happening currently with X.

Again, exciting :). I'm looking forward to this.

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Allan E. Registos <

Post by Allan E. Registos
"Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six
months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will
be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or
something, we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the
wayland based desktop.

Allan E. Registos

2010-11-13 03:53:23 UTC

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For those interested, there are Wayland screenshots available:
http://wayland.freedesktop.org/screenshots.html
And the growing interest of Wayland at Fedora project mailing list:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/145091.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "Allan E. Registos" <allan.registos at smpc.steniel.com.ph>
To: "Mailing List para sa Ubuntu Pilipinas (Philippines)" <ubuntu-ph at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 6, 2010 5:34:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu ditches X for Wayland..

Mark Shuttleworth:

" Timeframes are difficult. I?m sure we could deliver *something* in six months, but I think a year is more realistic for the first images that will be widely useful in our community."
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551

Unless someone in the community will provide for us a mock-up or something, we will wait for four years from now to fully experience the wayland based desktop.

----- Original Message -----
From: Franz Allan Valencia See <franz.see at gmail.com>
To: Mailing List para sa Ubuntu Pilipinas (Philippines) <ubuntu-ph at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:27:16 +0800 (PHT)
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-PH] Ubuntu ditches X for Wayland..

Very interesting indeed :-)

Anybody knows if there are some sneak peek videos or pics showing the 'improved' user experience? :-)

Cheers,
--
Franz Allan Valencia See | Java Software Engineer
franz.see at gmail.com
LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/franzsee
Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/franz_see

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Allan E. Registos < allan.registos at smpc.steniel.com.ph > wrote:

Another exciting news from Ubuntu.
http://www.osnews.com/story/23998/Finally_Ubuntu_Ditches_X_Switches_to_Wayland
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